Comments on: When the dead are dunked… https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/ Mohawk Petting Zoo Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:35:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: milkboy31 https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/#comment-14 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:35:00 +0000 http://bpirolli.com/?p=7#comment-14 @victoriarogne – Sorry you feel that way… But I must say that you have assumed many things here.  One of which being that I have been “devoting my life” to saying things about Mormons that isn’t true.  Actually, check your OWN doctrines and you’ll find that I have not misquoted or mis-represented anything here.  It is all 100% true.  Yes, Mormons typically DO have amazing morals and do great works, but that doesn’t mean the doctrine is solid.  Further, I’m not sure how my commentary on these issues has played a part in “destroying” the good Mormons do.  And lastly, again I apologize if you feel I was “putting you down” in this post, but I encourage you to look into your faith the same way I encouraged my Mormon friend here to…  I think you’ll see once you pull back the curtain that the wizard is just a man… and not a prophet, let alone on equal footing with God to judge men for eternal destinations.

Don’t take it personally… I’m not attacking you.  I may DISAGREE with your beliefs, but clearly you disagree with mine.  All I’m saying is, I’ve done the leg-work to learn your reasoning and doctrines… now I ask the same of you in return.  Look beyond what you’ve been spoon-fed for the past 15 years and challenge your own faith.  If you are correct, you have nothing to fear… it’ll hold water.  But if you aren’t… this could be the most important journey you ever take.

]]> By: aaronshaf https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/#comment-13 Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:35:00 +0000 http://bpirolli.com/?p=7#comment-13 Of interest:

http://www.mrm.org/multimedia/video/jesus-christ-joseph-smith

]]> By: victoriarogne https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/#comment-12 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:19:00 +0000 http://bpirolli.com/?p=7#comment-12  i am a mormon girl and i would just like to say that i wish you would stop devoting your life to saying stuff about mormons that is not true. we all try our hardest to do good but every time we turn around someone like you is there destroying it. i know this is pointless so i will stop there but just know that there are other people reading this that dont agree with you. please stop putting me down.

]]> By: Anduril13 https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/#comment-11 Mon, 27 Nov 2006 02:45:00 +0000 http://bpirolli.com/?p=7#comment-11 OOH, i know who the conversation was with….

good article

]]> By: milkboy31 https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/#comment-10 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:29:00 +0000 http://bpirolli.com/?p=7#comment-10 Oh, and P.S.  I’m happy to see the strength of your faith Emily.  It’s not easy to do a lot of the things you’ve done.  Don’t ever forget how amazing our God is.

]]> By: milkboy31 https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/#comment-9 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:27:00 +0000 http://bpirolli.com/?p=7#comment-9 Interesting points… on both comments.  As far as the tongues stuff goes, if the conversation comes up again (and it likely will) I’ll gladly point them to read 1 Corinthians 12 again.

“There are different kinds of gifts… …to one there is given through the spirit… … …to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.” – 1 Cor 12:4-10

It never says you get all of them. It never says you definitely get tongues… and in fact, the way it is written states that SOME get that, others don’t.

1 Cor 14:27-40 says a lot on the order of things too… that you must speak with an interpreter there and it must be organized and not just madness.

]]> By: leanybean https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/#comment-8 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:19:00 +0000 http://bpirolli.com/?p=7#comment-8 PS… I was thinking about your post about speaking in tongues… and you know the Bible says the the Spirit prays for us with groans that cannot be expressed in words… that verse really stood out to me one day, and I really think that a times I know when that is happening, even if at that time I am not literally speaking in tongues.  I’m no expert, obviously, but to put the Holy Spirit in a box saying that one must speak in tongues to prove to be filled with the Spirit really limits the power of the Holy Spirit and how He works and demonstrates His power.  I’m not finding the right way to concisely state my point… but hopefully you get what I mean.  If those people get on your case again, that might be something else that could be pointed out to them.

]]> By: leanybean https://bpirolli.com/2006/11/when-the-dead-are-dunked/#comment-7 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:08:00 +0000 http://bpirolli.com/?p=7#comment-7 Ironically, after all of my bouts with an LDS here on xanga the summer before I went to Spain, I ended up meeting about 40 American LDS missionaries in Spain.  They, of course, saw that I had some knowledge and therefore made me their little project, and I was passed around from Mormon missionary pair to Mormon missionary pair.  (I always had someone go with me to pray during the encounter, though.)

Anyway, and I don’t know how much this may help you… but I’ve found that it works best to keep asking them questions and pretty much circle their reasoning to the point where they realize themselves that they don’t make sense.  Usually, after I did that, they’d pass me on to another pair of missionaries until they eventually stopped calling me, but hopefully I planted some seeds.

Anyhow, it obviously takes a lot of learning and research on the religion of both sides to be able to be at all effective in that type of conversation… and a lot of prayer.  I’ll be praying for you and your friend.  Good job looking into things… I really wish more Christians would do that.

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